![]() ![]() And Plato wasn't the smartest in the shed because he actually thought the forms were literally finite, not finite "in comparison" to the absolute. These forms are also supposed to be unchangeable and eternal. That kind of debunks the entire transfinite side of Marvel. My bad, I meant to say the set of even numbers. It doesn't mean anything for scaling, because if you actually do some research you would know Platonic concepts cannot be transcended or modified. Platonic means quite a bit actually, You're transcendent to most material things and have an eternal prospect of existence. No, SCP has plato's forms, just not the collective unconscious which has nothing to do with plato but with Sigmund Freud and Carl Gustav. ![]() Plato stated Forms are finite in comparison to the possibly infinite, which is trash to the actual infinities. The idea of the forms is that they are either their own thing, they are based off things, things are based off them or all three. Substances Transcend Matter and Form In Plato's Books matter existed before form, and form was manifested in the primordial seas in which they were originally formless. What are you talking about? Platonic and Aristotelian Constructs retain their position regardless of whether or not something transcends it or not. Marvel does not consider the set of naturals to be above the set of reals, nothing states that, in fact according to kubik's statement on numbers it's the opposite.Ģ. it's absolutely inaccessible to things below it, Aleph 1, 2, 3, and so on surpass that value and each of their own values surpassing the last value in the same way (if not greater) while having infinite sets ( +subsets) and sequences of their own.ĭC isn't very strong on Transfinite Arithmetic but it wouldn't need it since it has higher Platonic means quite a bit actually, You're transcendent to most material things and have an eternal prospect of existence.ġ. It gets complicated, lower sets of Aleph Null alone > Platonic/Aristotelian thingsĪleph Null is so big, it's more than transcendental. The 3rd Dimension that we live in and an Infinite Dimension can actually be calculated in the same cardinal value. ![]() Transfinite Cardinals would be an entirely different story. And even if you wanna use this flawed conceptions SCP has both platonism and the collective Transfinite Dimensional in basics would be something like an Infinite Dimensional Hilbert Space (Infinite-Infinite Dimensions) opposed to a Finite Dimensional Hilbert Space (Finite-Infinite Dimensions). Platonism and Similar conceptions are utterly useless if they can be transcended/affected which goes against their fundamental definitions. We're talking about tihngs beyond all categories of space, time, numbers and dimensions while having their own, it puts the platonic and aristoteles factions to shame. SCP doesn't have these but the Transfinite Stuff is strong, but in the end it's nothing compared to Jung's Archetypes. Also collective Unconscious doesn't mean much if you don't explain what it entails for size.ĭC has 1 Collective Unconscious and even top tiers like The Presence, Source, Lucifer, Michael and such are bound by it, It's a energy that extends across all creations and the several multiverses. Marvel's transfinites are inherently flawed because they consider the set of naturals to be larger than the set of reals. Marvel has Several Jungian Collective Unconsciousness with a sort of Transfinite Logic hierarchy to them as well as Beings embodying them (Eternity, Infinity, Oblivion, Etc) along with rapid and extensive Jungian Archetypes some beings based on that (Odin, Zeus, etc) Yes SCP Universes are Metaphysical, but it doesn't have the categories that DC does. ![]()
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